Monday, January 19, 2009

Closing Club GITMO

President Obama has announced he will close Guantánamo Bay Detention Camp (GITMO). One of his first official acts was to request a halt of all prosecutions of GITMO prisoners. Eric Holder our new A.G. (pending confirmation) confirms water boarding is torture. It looks like terrorists are going to get the Full Monte of constitutional niceties.

Who are these terrorists? A new report from liberal leaning Brookings Institute report finds that the government alleges the following about the remaining 248 inmates;

"81 detainees traveled to Afghanistan for jihad, 130 stayed in Al Qaeda, Taliban, or other guest- or safehouses, 169 detainees took military or terrorist training in Afghanistan, 84 actually fought for the Taliban, many of them on the front lines against the NorthernAlliance, 88 were at Tora Bora, 71 detainees’ names or aliases were found on computers, hard drives, physical lists of Al Qaeda operatives, or other material seized in raids on Al Qaeda safehouses and facilities. 64 detainees were captured under circumstances—military surrenders, live combat actions, traveling in a large pack of Mujahideen, or in the company of senior Al Qaeda figures, for example—that strongly suggest belligerency and 28 detainees served on Osama Bin Laden’s security detail."

Pentagon officials say that about 110 detainees should never be released because of the potential danger they pose to U.S. interests.

What has happened to those already released.

The Pentagon said on Tuesday that "61 former detainees from its military prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, appear to have returned to terrorism since their release from custody."
Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said 18 former detainees are confirmed as "returning to the fight" and 43 are suspected of having done so in a report issued late in December by the Defense Intelligence Agency.

In the first public comment by any CIA officer involved in handling high-value al Qaeda targets, John Kiriakou, now retired, said the technique (water boarding) broke (terrorist) Zubaydah in less than 35 seconds.
“The next day, he told his interrogator that Allah had visited him in his cell during the night and told him to cooperate,” said Kiriakou in an interview to be broadcast tonight on ABC News’ “World News With Charles Gibson” and “Nightline.”

His "cooperation" led directly to information which saved American lives.

These terrorists are not US citizens, They are not covered under the Geneva Conference. They are not legally entitled to the rights they are about to be given. In fact by their violations of the very same rights of others that they now seek, they have forfeited any claim to be treated as well as they have been. These people want to kill your Mothers, your Sons and Daughters all your family as well as you. Better yet they do not want to do it cleanly. They want it to be in as horrifying a manner as is possible. The way they have been treated to date is legit mate self defense. It is legally and morally justified.

But hey lets treat them like a run of the mill miscreant say a bank robber instead of what they really are. Then pray we don't live to regret it. Pray real hard!


Son of Liberty said...

WHAT! no comments.

Come on I know their is somebody out there who disagrees with me.

Don't be shy. Let me have it!

ambrosiajr said...

I'm pretty sure I've made myself very clear on my position on torture, so I see no need to reiterate with this post. As to rights, well, we deem ourselves to be morally superior to the countries that employ imprisonment without due process, (ie: North Korea, China, Iran, etc.) so I have no problem with closing down this detention center.

I do think that they will figure out where to put them within the year's time frame, and I have every confidence that the ones that will still need to be detained will be, and the ones that have been held there for more than 3 years without even the benefit of a charge will be released.

This is fairly mellow for SOL?

Son of Liberty said...

Its a start Ambro. More to com.

BTW I figure you must still be hungover.

ambrosiajr said...

Euphoria only lasts so long...then you come back down to reality and you find that we're still in a pickle of a mess.

Instead of being like Rush "I'm a drug addict, but hey, its ok since I'm rich" Limbaugh, and praying for his failure, I pray that President Obama and his well picked staff helps us get out of this mess that was left by the arrogantly unapologetic Bushies.

Son of Liberty said...

I hope he succeeds too.
because the only way he will succeed is if he drops the socialist agenda.